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Skate mag history
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On 10/28/2009 cliff coleman
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Have any of you seen the very first skate magazine? "The Quarterley Skateboarder", Winter, 1964. Cliff Coleman
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Skate mag history
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On 10/20/2009 jbh
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Wow, great stuff, Mig! I'm sure I've seen that site before but had completely forgotten about it. Thanks!
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Skate mag history
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On 10/20/2009 mig
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What up Jonathan!  According to vintageskateboardmagazines.com, Skateboard World ran from June 1977 to February 1979. I still have most of the ones featured on this page: [url:3uzd9qw6]http://vintageskateboardmagazines.com/Skateboard%20World%20%28USA%29.html[/url:3uzd9qw6]No specifications given for Wide World of Skateboarding. I have a few of them. They were harder to find in my neck of the woods back then. The last issue I have is the last one featured on this page: [url:3uzd9qw6]http://vintageskateboardmagazines.com/Skateboard%20World%20%28USA%29.html[/url:3uzd9qw6]
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On 10/19/2009 jbh
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Anyone know when the final issues of [i:jcjvb31i]Skateboard World[/i:jcjvb31i] and [i:jcjvb31i]Wild World of Skateboarding[/i:jcjvb31i] were published? I remember seeing [i:jcjvb31i]Wild World[/i:jcjvb31i] on the shelves at Target back when I was a kid, but I never had the money to buy them. I eventually wound up with a few issues of each and have some idea when they started, but how long did they last? And what were their respective last issues? Anyone?
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youtube "old school skateboard images"
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On 9/4/2009
buddy rawls
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that air around 40 second second mark isn't on Indy trucks. Those are midtracks. I remember the name, but surely could not ID him. but it does look like an Indy air to me. We did things like that at our ditch in 77/78. there was not a good way to grab (no tranny to compress with), so all the grabs were done on the toe side, no matter if it was a fs or bs turn. They were essentially little hops that ended up as a lip slide or sometimes a board slide.
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1975 World Record
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On 9/2/2009
John Hughes
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1975 I believe Guy Grundy road open ball bearing wheels, I will know for sure after ASR San Diego as he is bringing the org board to the display,
The Road to Signal Hill, as for the 1976 race, myself, Chuy, Guy, and Dave Dillberg all rode 4" open ball bearings made by IDI AKA: Power Paw
In 1977 there was everything in the 4" on standup and skatecars.
I will take pictures as will everyone at the show, so watch for proof of what was really at Signal Hill, Downhill rules
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old pics & 1975 downhill
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On 9/1/2009 dshufly
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That old air shot w/indy's wouldn't have been Gunnar cuz' he was a
Tracker guy,...the way to find out about those wheels of Grundy would
be to talk to John Hughes @ www.skatewhat.com....John Hughes was a
downhiller from la costa who raced at Signal Hill,..a knee rider.
Peace Shufly
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old pics
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On 8/31/2009 herbn
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saw something on utube, might not be news to some of you ,but search "old school skateboard images" about sec 43 there's a seminal "indy" air i think its probabely gunnar haugo ,could be wrong,maybe someone else. There's a couple of other early air shots,anybody with guess's or certain id's i have mine.
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1975 Downhill
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On 8/31/2009
buddy rawls
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wasn't Guy Grundy's run down on loose-ball bearing wheels? I have seen some old footage of one of the fast cruising runs he did, and the wheels were definitely loose-ball bearing, but I did not recognize the wheel itself. They were about 3 to 3.5" diameter and quite thin. Very possible an industrial wheel of some sort.
Any of you older california guys with knowledge, chime in.
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1975 DOWNHILL RECORD
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On 8/27/2009
J
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Everyone has a story, and not all are true, This one is:
1975 Signal Hill, Calif. first ever WORLD DOWNHILL SKATEBOARD RECORD
GUY GRUNDY 50.2 STAND-UP. Look where downhill is today.
EVERYONE HAS A STORY AND ALL ARE IMPORTANT IN THE WORLD OF SKATEBOARDING...
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vernon valley nj
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On 7/24/2009 mikey
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thats my brother danny skating, thats me in the foreground vernon valley ' 77
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Rocky Mountain Surf
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On 7/14/2009
Dave
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Wow what great memories. Sean was my age. Arnie and Robert were both older. Arnie managed the park when it was really hopping. He was at the top of his game. He saw Alan Gelfands picture in a magazine and went outside and started practicing. He had it in about a day. Two maybe three sessions tops in the front end of the first bowl. Then over to the half pipe and, boom up he went. Big balls for that era. He was the best at the time where he was for sure. Arnie was alway really encouraging to those around him. Made me skate harder and understand that pain was part of the process. Pain is just weakness leaving the body. Lets see....memories. Drunk skaters, hating bmx mokes because they weren't careful and on busy nights were a bit of a hazard even to good skaters. New ones really had trouble. I remember that we all were working on snow options. Arnie was hanging with the WinterStick guys and bindings were all immensely lame. We tried Velcro, bungies, Gnarly grip tape and combinations of the like. No one was into edges on the snowboards at that point except burton and we all hated that rope thing. I met Tom Sims and Chuck Barfoot around then and they took me boarding for the first time with their latest prototypes. At the time they were big plastic sled type things with a Brad Bowman skateboard bolted to the top of it. Most of the great skaters from that era did love to dissapear into the mountains and occasionally drift into the valley. In our defense there were no ski resorts in American that would let snowboards on lifts, we were all die hard climbers. It took a few times of climbing the snowy mountain to make a staircase but the first climb could go on for hours before the first ride. Steve Olsen came out once or twice to visit Arnie and boom........climb a snowy mountain with me. It was the winter side of the summer skatepark life. Truly a great memory. Long winded...sorry. Here's the only pic I have of Rocky Mountain Surf. Yours truly is an egomaniac and its the only one I have.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=43943863&albumID=433296&imageID=1380863
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That Magic Feeling
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On 6/15/2009
hc
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The skateboard movie, That Magic Feeling is released by Jon Malvino. Shot in and around San Francisco and Marin
County, it features Kim Cespedes and Nick van Krydt.
anyone seen this?
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First "Commercial" skate boards
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On 5/30/2009 Larry D
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Well... I was able to contact Roger N. and actually talked with him for a while on the phone. (it's only been 50 years)
He owns a surf board shop, has for a long time, and is doing very well. I was really glad to hear that.
He remembers the day in the driveway in Cupertino like it was yesterday. (prototyping a "downhill" board from 1 by's and steel skate wheels to traverse that sloping curving driveway) Remember, we were all of eight and nine years old and that slope and radical turn at the sidewalk were "treacherous" to us.
Roger was able to confirm my memories of the day and added one player I didn't remember, his older cousin Skip who Roger said saw us going down the driveway sitting on the boards and asked, "why don't you stand on it and go down"? We did, and got pretty good at it, and began building skate boards for the neighborhood. (we are back to where I left off a month ago)
Roger remembers giving boards to Annis Jensen's daughters along with half the kids in our neighborhood and he remembers the Roller Derby skate boards. In fact he has several in his "collection" of surfing and skate boarding memorabilia. HOWEVER, he is still in regular contact with Annis and her daughter Barbara and feels they were not involved in the development of the first "Roller Derby" skate boards.
Roger told me that he has thought about it over the years and even discussed it with Annis and Barbara and as much as he "wishes" that it had all started in that driveway that day in 1959, he says according to them, it did not.
SO ... The first commercial skate board bore the logo "Roller Derby" right down the middle of it and was "probably" promoted by "someone" in the Roller Derby organization who "May" have gotten the idea from an early skate boarder in 1959 BUT, it appears that there was no connection to the four 9 year olds in Annis's neighborhood.
I agree with Roger though ... I sure "wish" there was ... If someone is able to follow up further, perhaps someone who was in the Roller Derby organization at the time, and is able to pin point the transition from rough, hand made boards to the first commercial boards I would love to see it become part of the "history" of the sport, no matter who was involved.
That's it from this end,
Larry D
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Roller Derby
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On 5/29/2009
Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco
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dshufly's comments
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On 5/25/2009
buddy rawls
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"Stoke" that everyone had to do their own thing. 1st or
Next is as unimportant as Best or Next Best,...remember,.."the best skater on any given day is the one having the most fun!"
Yes, I remember. Today there is too much instant recognition needed. ITs not the ride, but the trick that reigns supreme
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Early Flippers
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On 5/24/2009 dshufly
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Both Ty Page & Kurt Lindgren were doing kickflips in 75-76', Bobby Boyden was
also in the mix and he did it on "VERTICAL" surfaces,..prior to the Dogtown boys
doing any sort of Airs! 1st or next doesn't really matter,..each of these skaters
were part of a natural progression of Trick Evolution,..as well as many other
skaters across the U.S.,.....I traveled the states in 76' for six months and
was impressed with the "Stoke" that everyone had to do their own thing. 1st or
Next is as unimportant as Best or Next Best,...remember,.."the best skater on any
given day is the one having the most fun!"
V shufly
ps...Torger Johnson was a Classic, although short lived, he will never be forgottn as a major contributor to the decipline that is skateboarding.
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On 5/17/2009
caddy
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boyden k.f.
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On 5/14/2009 herbn
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i don't know if he was the first but i think i remember his "Who's hot" he was known for kickflip variations, on to a board off the top of a board,sort of 180 kf,i think doubles too.
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Kick Flip
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On 5/14/2009
buddy rawls
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On 5/13/2009 caddy wrote in from United States (209.237.nnn.nnn)
where does Bobby Boyden come into this picture?
the first time I remember seeing Bobby Boyden was kick flipping off of a platform. But this is my whole argument in my long post below. When all you have to go on is magazines, which print dates lagged reality by atleast 2 months. NOT TO MENTION all the thousands of skaters who were completely capable, but were not in the southern california mag "favorites" list, you get very limited picture of what is really happening, or who did what. the internet has really changed this. Now we have 10 billion pros. Where's the freakin novelty in that? There aint no novelty, it's like having a drivers license.
Was Bobby Boyden the first kick flipper? could be. But Skateboarder ran a trick tip (or maybe a whos hot- i dont remember) by Kurt Lindgren doing it. So, for all of eternity, except for the people really truly there, Kurt Lindgren gets the nod. Its wrong, but that the way it goes with such a very limited picture
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kickflip
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On 5/13/2009
caddy
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where does Bobby Boyden come into this picture?
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Buddy
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On 5/13/2009
Cliff Coleman
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Buddy,
The first Bunny Hop I saw was at the Anaheim Championships in 1965. It was done on a flat surface. I'm not sure, but it may have been Danny Schafer?
Cliff Coleman
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1st's, or...nto
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On 5/13/2009
buddy rawls
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I honestly feel that skateboarding progressed too quickly in that 76-79 time frame to honestly nail down who did what. In Alabama, we only had the wild world, skateboard world, skateboarder, and skaterider/waverider (awesome Florida based mag) magazines. So, who we saw do tricks was what was shown in the mags. But we knew there were skaters all over the country that were equally capable and equally initiated at inventing tricks.
Now, in the age of internet, it is far easier to document something new and off the wall.
On the fs air thing and Tony Alva, all the photos reference the dogbowl, but I dont think everyone that sees those photos realize that the dogbowl stuff happened in late 77/ early 78, not way back in 75 or possibly 76 as the current media now has everyone believing. the dead give away is the green 2nd gen Krypts.
I think the actual claim on the fs air and Alva (if it is legit) is that it was in a pool. I have seen numerous shots of the florida guys in the earlier days (mid 76) doing off the lips in pools (bs and fs) (clyde rogers, jeff croyl, walker, greg mischeid, etc) , but even back then then it was questioned if it was actually successfully ridden out. All we had were still photos, no video footage at all. And even a question of successful completion of the manuever was not so much an issue as was the simple awesomeness of the attempt itself. case in point, the Jay adams handplant things. The ALva fs air photo showed authority and calmness, as well as a firm hold to the board. We knew that photo showed an actual completed manuever in a pool, no doubt.
But first true FS air or backside, I think you have to go back to the bunny hops and doing it on hips in ditches and such. there is no telling who really did this first.
what about the inverts. There were guys in florida doing those wild fs (no less!) aerial berts and stuff that darn near appraoched a miller flip (not invented yet) more than anything.
I am not saying florida, florida, florida, I am simply using it as an alternative to the socal did everything, and that stuff was happening everywhere. 76-79 will never ever be duplicated again, nor can it be duplicated!
what about a frontside kick-in/roll-in off a wall or bench (from a stopped position). that is essentially the same movement as an ollie. I know some of the ones that even we did were actually airborn before we ever eclipsed over the edge of the wall.
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1st's, or.... not
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On 5/12/2009 PSR
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Buddy, I'm glad you put Greg Walker (well, and Torger, too) out there possible 1st candidates. My gut feeling is that the actual "1st" wasn't recorded or noted by any provable means (kinda like my 80+ mph luge runs in the early 80's- I wasn't bringing a camera along, 'cause, duh, it'd break if I dropped it!) : so, it'll likely come down to witnesses, photos, and/or a contest that it was noted at.
Herbn, 'air' in a pool, not to mislead anyone in a wrong direction, but I'd add Mark Lake (Flite) to early possible air antics. When I saw him in '76, in N.Y. or N.J., in a drainage ditch, he was already getting 'air', but without any 'ollie', just freaky-fast lines up+out. I only got to speak to him once, and that was some 2 years later ('78, in N.J.). But who knows? Pools out west were already being heavily sessioned, as were ditches, by '76 and even earlier. Again, I doubt the "real" first was even documented. ;-)
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first "indy air"
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On 5/12/2009 herbn
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well sort of, it wasn't really like duanes, though the grip and the direction were the same,boy position was more above the board,definitely not with the head under the board, Gunnar Haugo,apparently thought outside the box when it came to skate moves, he apparently was better known for one footed carves.i googled his name to once i thought of it ,to check spelling,it still looks weird. he probabely did other odd tricks. Wait maybe he double grabbed inside and outside rail,it's been a long time since i saw the pic, but it was around the coping of a backyard pool,so it was a way early grab,but still an air a very early air.
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